Carrie and Ben are joined by friend of the podcast Rachel Bennett to talk about how their past careers have shaped their identities as therapists. Topics include:

• How working in fine dining informs the importance of being of service and providing experiences to therapy clients

• How very few people in therapy and acting know what they're doing and how this helps with impostor syndrome

• The humility required to be a successful poker player and therapist, as well as the need to separate short-term results from long-term process

• The importance of learning how to self-regulate in the presence of others

• How all of this (as always) relates to feedback-informed treatment