On Very Bad Therapy, we seek to understand what it’s like for clients to have bad therapeutic experiences. Should we focus more on the therapists’ side of the story? Dr. Patrick Wiita joins us to continue our conversation from the end of episode #72 to discuss some very interesting questions:

• Are we doing a disservice to our listeners by not considering the “bad” therapists’ point of view?

• What are we suggesting by being unquestionably validating of our guests’ stories?

• Is it even possible to have this podcast if we challenge our guests’ perspectives?

Plus, Carrie finds deep meaning in a breakfast sandwich.

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Introduction: 0:00 – 3:57

Part One: 3:57 – 52:28