Carrie and Ben are joined by friend of the podcast Rachel Bennett to talk about how their past careers have shaped their identities as therapists. Topics include:

• How working in fine dining informs the importance of being of service and providing experiences to therapy clients

• How very few people in therapy and acting know what they're doing and how this helps with impostor syndrome

• The humility required to be a successful poker player and therapist, as well as the need to separate short-term results from long-term process

• The importance of learning how to self-regulate in the presence of others

• How all of this (as always) relates to feedback-informed treatment

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Introduction: 0:00 – 9:03

Part One: 9:03 – 1:17:47

Show Notes:

• MFT California

• The Surprise of Reaching Out: Appreciated More Than We Think

• Unexpectedly reaching out to a friend is more appreciated than people assume, new study shows